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Published Date: 10 March 2008
Protesters have slammed a "chaotic" hunt, which was called off early after 25 hounds repeatedly ran across a Peak District road.
Anti-hunt campaigners said huntsmen lost control of their hounds, who ran after hares on numerous occasions, during the hunt near Monyash last Saturday.

North West Hunt Saboteurs Association put a video online which it said showed hounds putting lives at risk by running back and forth over a road while searching for a hare.


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High Peak Hunt organisers said they intended to follow a pre-placed scent, but the dogs were led astray by strong winds.

Paul Timpson, from NWHSA, said: "This is the second time they've lost control and got separated from the scent they're hunting.

"Saturday was really bad. It was complete chaos and the dogs just wandered off chasing hares.

"How can this happen if they were following a scent?"

But joint master of the hunt Bob Graham denied the hunt was out of control, and said there were definite systems for crossing roads.

Mr Graham said: "It wasn't chaos at all, but it really was very windy so the hounds had trouble finding the scent.

"Because of that we ended early."

He said hares occasionally appeared during hunts and dogs would be stopped, but it was not a regular occurrence.

"I didn't see that on Saturday, but if it did happen then the hounds will have been quickly called back," added Mr Graham.

Mr Timpson said since the new hunting act was introduced in 2004 the NWHSA's main role was to monitor hunts.

It only intervened when animals were being hunted, he added.

Insp Brian Hall, from Bakewell police, said officers filmed the hunt and protesters on Saturday, but were happy with proceedings and no incidents were reported.

Links:
North West Hunt Saboteurs Association
High Peak Hunt

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Animal advocate,

Cheshire 11/03/2008 14:54:42
The usual chaos from those who think they are above the law and the usual apathy from the police. Inspector Hall seems to be very selective in what he thinks is the law. If only the same kind of apathy was shown when perfectly legal animal rights protestors go about their perfectly legal protests. Such 'accidents' during hunting are becoming the norm and the police better get their act together because the decent, law abiding people of this country will no longer stand by and allow laws to be broken whilst the police stand by and ignore the facts. Funny handshakes all round??
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a user commenting nickname less than 50 characte,

11/03/2008 15:45:07
The usual mantra from those minorities who think they know best and call foul when the law isn't implemented their way. Inspector Hall is obviously a professional and applies the law in a balanced way. If only perfectly legal animal rights protestors would go about perfectly legal protests and not complain after them. Such 'accidents' during hunting are made worse by the antics of some misguided 'protesters' by laying false trails or sending confusing signals to the dogs or worse. If NWHSA's (self-imposed) main role is to monitor hunts it looks like one of their other roles is to mis-inform and try to cause trouble!
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Animal advocate,

Cheshire 12/03/2008 11:22:32
Minorities is the word (unnamed person above), the hunt mob are a minority who think they are above the law, the MAJORITY of this country wanted a ban and we got one but those who continue to hunt outwith the law believe they can carry on regardless and get away with it. As for 'misguided' protestors, you mean spoiling the fun of the blood sports fanatics, nothing misguided there. Hounds ramaging across busy road, into people's gardens, killing pets etc etc. Those 'antics' are what good, law abiding people have had enough of. Misinforming the public is done regularly by hunts stating their hounds 'accidently' got out of control. Long live the hunt monitors!! As for Inspector Hall being a professional and applying the law in a balanced way, perhaps he needs new specs if he cannot see what is in front of his nose. The vast majority of animal rights protestors do go about their protests in a perfectly legal way but funnily enough those 'professional and balanced' police officers sometimes choose to see otherwise. Just makes us all the more determined to exercise our human rights and fight to stop animal cruelty. NWHSA do much needed and legal hunt monitoring, cause no trouble, give facts to the police with evidence and ensure those who try to break the law are brought to justice. Shame that seems to upset you nameless person above!
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a user commenting nickname less than 50 characte,

12/03/2008 12:24:28
I'll just agree to disagree regarding who is in the minority and who thinks they are above the law.

I've chosen to remain anonymous as I don't want me or my family facing personal abuse/attacks or even my dead and buried relatives being dug up; (by the way I'm not wishing to imply that this is something that NWHSA do or condone.)

I am concerned about the tone of your reply: 'Just makes us all the more determined to exercise our human rights and fight to stop animal cruelty.' How far are you prepared to go with your fight? Infringe on other peoples human rights? Or worse?

I'm not upset by what you do, I just felt that another view should be put.

I do actually care about animal welfare as it affects the quality and nutritional value of the meat that I eat.

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Paul Timpson,

Manchester 12/03/2008 12:25:34
Below is an article on the same hunt when 'They lost control of their hounds'

Hunt's vow as pack kills pet 28/9/06

Hunt leaders have vowed to stop exercising their hounds in Peak villages after a family's cat was savaged and killed by their pack of dogs.

Members of the High Peak Hunt had been riding through Sheldon near Bakewell when the pack of around 40 hounds attacked the animal after spotting it by the side of the road.

Bob Graham, joint master of the hunt, said some of the younger hounds ran to the cat before the other dogs followed – eventually killing the pet – during the early morning ride through the village.

He said: "We are all deeply shocked and saddened that something like this has happened – it is not something I have seen before in all my years with the hunt.

"Normally a cat will run away as soon as it sees or hears us coming, but this one stayed sat at the side of the road.

"Unfortunately some of the younger hounds, who are more difficult to control, got to the animal and the rest of the pack followed."

Group leaders have now promised not to ride through Sheldon and other villages nearby, following calls from concerned residents — including the family who owned the cat — in the wake of the incident on September 8.

Mr Graham added: "The day it happened I met with the family and told them how deeply sorry we are that this has happened.

"This is the only village we tend to ride through, and we have done so for years, but we have been asked not to exercise our hounds in the village any longer and we have agreed to this."

Hunting with hounds was banned by new laws which came into force in February 2005, but packs are still exercised to get fit for 'trials' which test the animals' ability.

North West Hunt Saboteurs Association
PO Box 239
Manchester
M14 7XB
07960 038230
www.nwhsa.org.uk
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Paul Timpson,

Manchester 12/03/2008 12:29:34
The hunt also met in Sheldon last weekend and yet again lost control on their hounds on a few occasions.

How many more excuses can their give to cover up either their incompetence or the fact they are hunting hares?

North West Hunt Saboteurs Association
PO Box 239
Manchester
M14 7XB
07960 038230
www.nwhsa.org.uk
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Animal advocate,

Cheshire 12/03/2008 12:56:23
Oh don't be concerned about the tone of my reply. I am amiddle aged, professional person who has a conscience, nothing more. I am concerend about the blinkered comments you made above. My right to protest and fight for animal cruelty to stop will continue till I die. If you are wrongly assuming I do this in an unlawful way, that just shows how bigoted you are, as do your tired old comments above about digging up bodies etc. Such questions belie an attitude of ignorance and arrogance to assume that I infringe on people 'human' rights. People can do what they jolly well like until they abuse the innocent, be this children, elderly or animals. Just because you support a minority blood sport and are sore because the majority of the country oppose it, then you think you can label all compassionate people due to the actions of a few and make unjustified, narrow minded comments. Do you think all doctors kill their patients because Harold Shipman did? I would hope not, then do not assume that my fight for animals would be anything but lawful! Your cronies, those who take pleasure from harming animals,are the law breakers here. As for your last comments, your concern about animal welfare is only due to the pleasure you will get from eating them, well doesn't that speak for itself! May we all reap what we sow!
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Judi Hewitt,

Denbighshire. 12/03/2008 14:18:18
A certain unnamed person talks about the sabs being self imposed, which reminds of that other self imposed organisation the Countryside Alliance.
This odious pro-hunt group certainly has it's fair share of hunt thug supporters, and from my observation have told more porkies (propaganda)than all other organisations put together.
Nameless should take a look at the way hunt thugs continue to behave towards people trying to stop animal cruelty, before digging up one stupid incident that has nothing to do with decent animal rights campaigners.
I'm sick of reading crap from those who PRETEND to care about animals, but only care about the animal parts that they can stuff into their mouths.
I say let this person gorge on as much animal flesh as he wants. He/she clearly believes it's healthy. IF ONLY HE KNEW!
If people really care about animals, then they would stop eating them, because there's never been more abuse of animals than is happening right now. Okay so there are inspectors at animal markets, but most just turn a blind eye to what goes on. Suffering animals destined for the slaughter-house can include pregnant cows who have been known to give birth in pens while waiting to be paraded in the ring. self 'imposed' under cover activists have seen cows forced to abandon their babies then be prodded by meat buyers in the ring. Stop eating animals and stop supporting hunt cruelty. It's evil!
The terrible way animals are treated by those profiting from their misery makes those who accept it - inhuman.
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a user commenting nickname less than 50 characte,

13/03/2008 12:48:05
Mr Paul Timpson, many thanks for your informed replies. I remember reading the story about the cat and I hadn’t realised that this was the same hunt. It does seem that they are not ‘playing by the rules’ and certainly not honouring previous commitments that they have made. For what it’s worth you’re right to be monitoring them.
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a user commenting nickname less than 50 characte,

13/03/2008 12:48:19
Anonymous ‘Animal advocate’. You say I make blinkered, unjustified, narrow minded tired old comments, make assumptions which demonstrate how bigoted I am and belie an attitude of ignorance and arrogance, and I have cronies, those who take pleasure from harming animals; not bad from the 12 or so sentences I’ve put so far.

This time your childish bully-boy name calling isn’t going to give you the ‘fight’ you repeatedly refer to. Grow up and have an adult debate.
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