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Published Date:
24 July 2008
A BLIND resident has voiced safety concerns over 'shared space' proposals which have been put forward for Matlock's Crown Square.
Matlock Civic Association has called for the scheme, which would see vehicles and pedestrians sharing the same space, to be considered, but Wirksworth resident Alan Foster, who is blind, said he had serious worries.

"I feel strongly about it. It is the most stupid idea I have ever heard," he added.

"If the cars and pedestrians share the same space how is a blind person to cross the road.

"You would have to make eye contact with the motorist and how is a blind person to do that?"

Mr Foster questioned the Civic Association's claims the scheme had worked in other areas and called for practicality over aesthetic appeal.

He added: "Personally I don't think any place is suitable and I'm not sure it does work in other areas or how safe it is.

"I have a guide dog and she is trained to sit at kerbs. If there are no kerbs where do you get your dog to sit?"

Sue Naish, chief executive for Derbyshire Association for the Blind, said: "We would find it very hard to agree with a decision that made it more difficult for people with a visual impairment to navigate their way through Matlock safely.

"We believe that every person with a visual impairment should be given the opportunity to be to be as independent as possible."

But Matlock Civic Association secretary Ken Parker said shared space had been introduced in other places and the needs of blind people had been considered.

He added: "Towns similar to Matlock have introduced these schemes successfully.

"It is important to stress this is not necessarily the right thing to introduce this scheme across the town centre in one go.

"It might make sense to introduce it in part of the town just to get people used to it and test if it does work."

Mr Parker said a meeting was being held on Monday at 7.30pm in Matlock Imperial Rooms to discuss shared space schemes and concerns can be raised with experts.

A spokesman Derbyshire County Council said they also had reservations about the proposals.

He added: "We understand suggestions of a 'shared space' would mean no clearly defined lines between the pavement and road around the square which would be a safety hazard."

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  • Last Updated: 25 July 2008 12:59 PM
  • Source: Matlock Mercury
  • Location: Matlock
 
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localdeveloper,

Matlock 24/07/2008 12:38:09
Yet another crazy idea, why can't the planners get real and turn Matlock into a town we can be proud of.
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Mr Vanilla,

24/07/2008 22:11:48
KP needs to be our local MP, assuming the Matlock Mercury have printed his exact words he seems to have an excellent attitude towards improving Matlock. His attitude is exactly how we approach new implementations in the private sector, for those in the public sector who don't know, it's called UAT (User Acceptance Testing). UAT doesn't work by a group of people saying "this is the plan", then another group of people saying "good idea, let's implement the plan". WITHOUT consultation from the users of the end product, the outcome will invariably be a disaster.
It's been proven TIME and TIME again that without UAT, projects fail, consistently...
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Mr Vanilla,

Matlock 24/07/2008 22:13:56
"It might make sense to introduce it in part of the town just to get people used to it and test if it does work."

That is exactly what we need, question is, where? Firs Parade could be a good starting point.
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JOHN WINNARD,

25/07/2008 15:45:20
This "Shared Space project" is another European initiative which is being forced on Matlock from the same stable that gave us the VSIP project coupling Matlock with other European CITIES.

Alan Foster is not a lone voice. If you want to see a damning but comprehensive Report from Guide Dogs for the Blind go to

http://www.iht.org/technicalaffairs/downloads/774_Shared%20Surface%20report.pdf


How can people without visual impairment be so dismissive of the views of those who are impaired?

It simply is not the case that problems do not exist elsewhere - please read the report.

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JOHN WINNARD,

27/07/2008 09:22:38
Well Mr Vanilla - haven't you just hit the nail on the head with your comments on User Acceptance Testing (UAT).

For UAT 1 - Matlock Town Council (incl Cllrs Burfoot (x2), Cllr Barker)

For UAT 2 - Matlock Civic Association - includes KP, Cllrs Burfoot (1) and Barker

For UAT 3 - Matlock Partnership (includes KP, Cllrs Burfoot (x2), Cllr Barker, other Town Councillors, other members of the Civic Association).

Unfortunately you choose to remain anonymous so you could well already be a member of UAT 1, 2 or 3.

I am just a member of the public (but in the Matlock Partnership) who is getting fed up with these same folk in these different groups claiming to represent the views your so-called "users".

We should NOT be the guinea pigs of Europe. If these ideas are so good why not try them in Bakewell where most of these European ideas come from?



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